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Origin of Journalism = "X" Estate ??

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Edward W. Stollery II

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Saturday, 25th Aug 2001 04:02

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Thank Peter Travis (definition of Self Publishing Online) for telling us <<The media here /Sweden?/ is called "the third estate" and not "the fourth estate" as in Anglo-Saxon countries.>>

Okay, historians, now's YOUR turn to correct me! For a long time, I've thought that we Journalists were the "Fourth Estate" because the FRENCH legislative body, post revolution, had the First estate, land owners? Second Estate, religion? Third estate, ?? and Fourth Estate, Journalists. ???

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	Origin of Journalism = "X" Estate ??
	Thank Peter Travis (definition of Self Publishing Online) for telling us <

Edward W. Stollery II

25/08/01 04:02

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	Re: Origin of Journalism = "X" Estate ??
	You're correct, except that it was pre-Revolution. Desperate to get approval for new taxes, in 1788 Louis XVI called an ...

John Birtwistle

28/08/01 14:33

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	Re: Origin of Journalism = "X" Estate ??
	Okay, John, we've the aristocracy; = the peers of England? The landowners... The second estate, the Church. That leaves the ...

Edward W. Stollery II

29/08/01 04:33

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	Re: Origin of Journalism = "X" Estate ??
	Hi Quaffers, not quite sure of the origin of this query, despite scanning the postings! But once again I ...

Marilyn Saklatvala

02/09/01 12:13

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	Re: Origin of Journalism = "X" Estate ??
	Thank you, Marilyn... Now, for the record, "Brewer's" means ... ? I could find nothing in my search engines under "Brewer's directory" ...

Edward W. Stollery II

03/09/01 04:50

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	Re: Origin of Journalism = "X" Estate ??
	Brewer's Dictionary of Phrase and Fable, first published 1870 or so. Quite a number of online references, but I'm not ...

Patrick Wallace

03/09/01 09:31

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	Re: Brewer's Dictionary of Phrase and Fable
	Please see NEW TOPIC by this title.

Edward W. Stollery II

04/09/01 04:40

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	Re: Origin of Journalism = "X" Estate ??
	Correction! - there's an online version of the 1894 edition at http://www.bibliomania.com/2/3/255/frameset.html "Fourth Estate" appears in "Fourierism to Frangipani" (!): Fourth Estate of ...

Patrick Wallace

03/09/01 09:39

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	Re: Origin of Journalism = "X" Estate ??
	Thanks for your message The Third Estate in the 18th Century French "parlement" (an enfeebled and tame consultative assembly, very unlike ...

John Birtwistle

29/08/01 14:39

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	Re: Origin of Journalism = "X" Estate ??
	So the non-Aristos are the 3rd estate -- which means, going back to the origin of this thread, that in ...

Edward W. Stollery II

30/08/01 06:57

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